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    I'm not big fan of the black door handles and mirrors, but overall I think it looks good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elks View Post
    413 was the number I heard. LOL HSV
    just added the Wheels article - saying it's 404kW. See post #4.

    Edit: So, "officially" Boss 335 is over 500hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falc'man View Post
    Oops fresh batting material

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    And now Go auto reckons 420kW.... Post number 4 updated.

    I'll go with you Elks. How could I doubt you..

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    It might be the light, but the blue doesn't grab me. Now the smoke version does, it will be interesting to see them in the flesh.

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    Question for Youssef, how are they getting 351kw but the torque remains unchanged???? I notice a small anomaly in the literature, max torque is listed as 2500 - 5500rpm... Other Miami's arent listed that way.

    Peak power still listed @ 6000rpm?

    Something isn't adding up.
    My Falcon family heritage: XY V8 Falcon 500, XYGT, XBGT, XC 351 GS, XD 4.1 Spack, EF wagon, AU Wagon, AU2 Wagon, AU2 XR8, BA XR8, BF XR8, FG XR6, Lucky last: Sprint 8. Oh wait, AU3 XLS Marlin Ute!

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    Some deduction.

    The intercooled version was said to produce about 430kW. Not sure if that was with or without transient overboost. If "10 to 15kW" is the difference I'd say the 430kW for the intercooled version is without transient overboost, because, surely, they wouldn't opt out of using the intercooler for that little of a difference between 351 and it. Unless it was going to throw costs out but from we've been told the only weak link was the firewall.

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    Smoke for me, from those pics. I do Like
    Octane doesn't work for me

    Reading that, they are definitely built for Tasmania. Lots of power in low ambients
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    @JoshuaDowling: After half a dozen laps of Ford's high speed test track and two dozen tries, the test driver's best 0-100kmh: 4.9 sec
    My Falcon family heritage: XY V8 Falcon 500, XYGT, XBGT, XC 351 GS, XD 4.1 Spack, EF wagon, AU Wagon, AU2 Wagon, AU2 XR8, BA XR8, BF XR8, FG XR6, Lucky last: Sprint 8. Oh wait, AU3 XLS Marlin Ute!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Vman View Post
    Question for Youssef, how are they getting 351kw but the torque remains unchanged???? I notice a small anomaly in the literature, max torque is listed as 2500 - 5500rpm... Other Miami's arent listed that way.
    Formula is Nm x RPM / 9551 = kW

    570Nm @ 2500rpm = 149kW.
    570Nm @ 5500rpm = 328kW.

    If we work back from 6000rpm and 351kW then we rearrange the formula, kW x 9551 / RPM...

    351 x 9551 / 6000 = 558Nm.

    They've maintained the peak torque figure up to 5500rpm resulting in 328kW up to those (5500) revs, and, slightly lifted it, by way of a little more boost, to 558Nm @ 6000rpm.

    Example. If I maintain the torque of 570Nm to 7000rpm...

    570 x 7000 / 9551 = 418kW. So, I haven't increased the peak torque but by virtue of the effect of torque at differing rpm I'm able to lift the power.

    You can allow more boost as you go higher in the revs without getting more torque (but maintain the same peak figure) and the nett effect is you've increased the power. More power, but the stress due to torque on the driveline doesn't change.

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