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    Just a heads up to anyone that has a black/dark coloured car about this great product. To say I'm OCD when it comes to detailing is an understatement. When it comes to clean cars I'm always the running joke with family and friends. I've got enough gear to just about start a detailing company (literally). I've been passionate about detailing for over 20 years and have tried a lot of products - most good. I find the biggest obstacle is knowing how to use a particular product correctly. For me it's been a long journey.

    I've always loved dark cars - especially black. Black is an awesome colour if you know how to look after it, if you don't it will be the most frustrating colour you'll ever own. If you get the detailing wrong the scratches/swirls/streaks etc will stick out like the preverbial - instead of people admiring your ride they're eyes are drawn to flawed paint. It's very rare to see a near
    flawless dark coloured car. It doesn't take long for a black car to become dull, scratched and dry looking.......just about any colour on the planet is better when your dark coloured car is neglected.

    I've been using Bowdens lazywax for a while now and it definitely deserves a mention here I believe - the main reason being it's bloody easy to use, you can use it on everything - glass/plastic/trim/paint and the results are spectacular. It is up there as one of the best products I have used.

    Many people I know when it comes to detailing go straight for clay and the full detail steps. Unless you really need to clay don't - especially with black. There are times when you need to clay but unless it's really needed clay will mark your clear coat, as true as the sun will rise in the morning - if you clay you will scratch your clear coat. Once it's scratched your going to be spending money on products to try and fix it. It's easy enough to fix as part of a full detail but, if you don't know how to do it and your car is black then consider all other options first. It's not like we drive bentleys with paint as thick as our bumpers, we have very little paint on our Falcons so best to look after it before going straight to clay and a full detail.

    As mentioned I've been using this for a while and it has blown me away. If your paint is in pretty good condition, wash your car and try it. You can spray it on everything including glass and trim. Whatever this stuff touches it rejuvenates and protects. The plastic on my side mirrors is nearly darker than my paint. The window trims are a deep black lustre. The big one though is the paint. The more you use this stuff the deeper and wetter the paint looks - actually the deeper and wetter everything looks. Its just blown me away.

    I've got two clay bars that have been ready to go for a while. Once I clay it's a big job to bring the paint back to a flawless finish. Since using this stuff I haven't bothered opening the clay. It's left such an awesome finish it's just not worth the hassle of a full detail - the stuff is that good. I doubt I'll be claying for years if I use this product regularly. I'm not going to clay a little fallout when this stuff makes the paint look better than new. Today the microfibre I was using ended up very damp with the product, the cloth was really soft and I just kept wiping everything, the paint, badges, trims etc......it just gets better and wetter. I've been trialling the stuff for a while and my F6 is now off the scale.

    Anyway will leave it there.

    For the blokes who have just bought a new falcon that is dark give the sprays a go. Don't jump in the deep end first and use clay. Meguires ultimate detailer is another fantastic product for dark cars too. Mothers have a great range of sprays too. If you use quality spray waxes/detailers regularly you'll enjoy your black paint a hell of a lot more and you'll be able to stay away from 'clay up' details that are big jobs - not to mention the risk. The key is use them ***regularly***. Once you've used them on a regular basis you'll understand where I'm coming from.

    I always stock up with sprays when they're on sale at Supercheap.......I never pay full price as they are quite expensive. Use quality microfibres and you'll find you'll enjoy your black/dark coloured car.

    BTW I have nothing/zero/zilch to do with Bowdens. I own a black F6 and find the stuff excellent. Given the damage that can be done to a dark Ford through inexperience of 'clay up' details I thought it would be a good idea to post my experience to benefit others.

    Happy detailing
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    I've used meguires clay bar kit and wax after clay bar. I'm pretty happy with the outcome.
    I'm surprised that clay bar is no good for the paint. I'll keep that in my mind next time I decide to detail my car!


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    I am a big fan of Bowdens gear. Might have to give this a run.
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    I am a big fan as well. Love the drop bear.

    I have gone away from their wax only because I have gone into paint correction and would rather not cross brands.

    Other than that I can't say a bad word against the line.

    Snow foam doesn't work but I don't think anyone's does. I have switched to nano wash now. Brilliant stuff.
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    Awesome write up too. Thanks
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    Thanks C&S for your experiences.
    I'm pretty curious of your clay marking comments - don't all/most top detailers use this process ? I think they do.
    They have preached consumers doing so for as long as detailing has come to fore more and more the last decade or so.
    What your saying does make sense, I get that but........

    I have been a recent Bowden user as of Oct last year.
    Some of their gear is pretty good I agree.
    Guess what, I have a silouette Sprint she's gleaming !
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    Quote Originally Posted by FTe217 View Post
    Thanks C&S for your experiences.
    I'm pretty curious of your clay marking comments - don't all/most top detailers use this process ? I think they do.
    They have preached consumers doing so for as long as detailing has come to fore more and more the last decade or so.
    What your saying does make sense, I get that but........

    I have been a recent Bowden user as of Oct last year.
    Some of their gear is pretty good I agree.
    Guess what, I have a silouette Sprint she's gleaming !
    Just remember Claying a car Maurie removes basically EVERYTHING from the surface including wax, polish, paint protection etc.

    Clay acts as a very fine abrasive.

    Not everyone wants to start from scratch every time they detail including reapplying expensive (and over rated IMO) "paint protection"..
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    Norm, I know, clay should only be used IF really needed so, twice max a year for those inclined - myself have done it maybe twice on the T3 over 10yrs and haven't done the Sprint.
    I know its takes everything off hence why you go through 3-4 process's to get your finish.
    I'm just curious that IF the professional experts use clay or whatever new style that has been created since looks imo to have been very successful by end product.
    The 2 odd times I used clay on the T3 - for a very fine abrasive as you say my paint work as as smooth as silk - it impressed me greatly.
    Now having seen quoted that it scratches the clear coat ( I can relate to that as posted) but under fluros in my garage the T3 has NO swirls, scratches thats obviously evident hence why I'm asking.
    Plus countless of us TSeries owners I know have used this process over the years that I've seen their paint and as does countless other Enthusiasts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FTe217 View Post
    Norm, I know, clay should only be used IF really needed so, twice max a year for those inclined - myself have done it maybe twice on the T3 over 10yrs and haven't done the Sprint.
    I know its takes everything off hence why you go through 3-4 process's to get your finish.
    I'm just curious that IF the professional experts use clay or whatever new style that has been created since looks imo to have been very successful by end product.
    The 2 odd times I used clay on the T3 - for a very fine abrasive as you say my paint work as as smooth as silk - it impressed me greatly.
    Now having seen quoted that it scratches the clear coat ( I can relate to that as posted) but under fluros in my garage the T3 has NO swirls, scratches thats obviously evident hence why I'm asking.
    Plus countless of us TSeries owners I know have used this process over the years that I've seen their paint and as does countless other Enthusiasts.
    Well you can't clay your bubble wrap and cant clay paint protection.

    claying twice a year is overkill unless you're doing 30-40000 k's a year.
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    Yes interesting comments re the clay? See they list a clay cloth?

    They have a few different spray detailers - it gets bloody confusing.

    I am a fan of finishing with a spray detailer every wash, so will give this a go.

    Ian - when you say the snow foam doesnt work - do you mean they dont foam, or you dont think they add any value to the overall washing process?

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