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    Victoria: Change to emergency vehicle rules.

    https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safe...gency-vehicles


    New road rule - Passing stopped enforcement, emergency and escort vehicles with flashing lights
    From 1 July 2017 a new road rule will be introduced to improve safety for our emergency and enforcement workers.

    What is the new rule?

    Motorists must slow down to a speed that would enable them to stop safely if necessary when approaching and passing enforcement, emergency or escort vehicles that are stationary or moving slowly (less than 10km/h)*, and have either:

    red and blue flashing lights
    magenta (purple) flashing lights - Transport Safety Services
    an alarm sounding


    You must not exceed 40km/h when passing the vehicle and not increase your speed until a safe distance from the scene.
    * A fire truck extinguishing roadside spot fires is an example of a slow-moving emergency vehicle.



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    Had that rule in SA for a while 25k's here. So if on freeway doing a 110 u must slow down to 25 n hope to hell the people behind u see the same flashing lights n ya brake lights. I did have an incident when it was daylight n a semi was stopped on side of freeway, I was coming over a rise n sweeping around a long left bend so I couldn't see the front of truck n wasn't till I was parallel with the truck that I saw the cop car at the front with flashing lights, found it a bit hard to slow down to 25 in the length of the truck, so slowed down as much as I could do safely, think I made it to 40 but it was some heavy braking n the cars behind me weren't real happy with me,then they saw the cop car. I'm not against the law but a bit ridiculous when u have a 4 lane highway and guard rails in between. I think it should only affect one side in that case. But no guard rail then both side should slow down. What happens when ya vision is blocked by a bigger vehicle on the outside lane ⇧⇧ n it's a undercover cop car, flashing lights aren't exactly on the roof, they're smaller n inside the car.

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    Waiting for the first set of rubberneckers to plough into the car in front of them.

    I normally do slow if someone is happening as you don't know what might happen...but I guess if they need to make a rule to do that it just shows common sense has gone out of driving.

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    It's mainly to provide a degree of protection to Police or members of the public who may be out of their vehicles and on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road_Warrior View Post
    It's mainly to provide a degree of protection to Police or members of the public who may be out of their vehicles and on the road.
    Member safety is paramount, yet there's no mention of the same level of safety for "Yellow light" RACV vans, Road side assist, Tow trucks, or people replacing tyres.

    From my perspective this is a ridiculous rule that will lead to serious nose to tail accidents and freeway congestion.

    Wait till Police cars are fitted with Fixed Camera technology, the min they pull over to attend to a 5 kph over criminal with light flashing they will switch on the cash register...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Vman View Post
    Member safety is paramount, yet there's no mention of the same level of safety for "Yellow light" RACV vans, Road side assist, Tow trucks, or people replacing tyres.

    From my perspective this is a ridiculous rule that will lead to serious nose to tail accidents and freeway congestion.

    Wait till Police cars are fitted with Fixed Camera technology, the min they pull over to attend to a 5 kph over criminal with light flashing they will switch on the cash register...
    I agree. As a New South Welshman, it sounds like both revenue raising and nanny statism. Is it not written in the road rules that you must pull over only when safe to do so?

    I was thinking this morning we are only a pedestrian death away from blanket 40Km/H Speed Limits during daylight hours.
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    Haven't heard of anyone getting a ticket over here for not slowing down to the required speed. I think as long as you are seen to make an effort to slow down, then it's a judgement call as to when u speed up n at what point u slow down, can't really book ya for that. It's not like they put out 40km signs either side of the incident on the side of the road. If the cops are dealing with a road side incident, they can't catch for speeding as well. Cops can't do 2 things a once, I would have to check the law on that though.

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    As a former VicSES volunteer (13 years doing raod accident rescue), I think this is a great move, there is some 'shit for brains' drivers out there. I remember being at an accident scene at night, lights everywhere, emergency service vehicles everywhere, hell we even had our 'Road Accident Ahead' signs out. Some tool came flying through the scene and TOG Officer on scene yelled at them, they kept going so he threw his torch at the car, it bounced off their car, they came to a stop and by christ did the TOG'y give it to the driver - LOL, it was great to watch. I still see him around quite a lot (the TOG'y - now ex) and we still laugh about it, but the idiot driver could have easily cleaned up someone.

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    Well, we have to keep covering up for the countless irresponsible idiots we have blossomed in our country the last 20yrs or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor View Post
    As a former VicSES volunteer (13 years doing raod accident rescue), I think this is a great move, there is some 'shit for brains' drivers out there. I remember being at an accident scene at night, lights everywhere, emergency service vehicles everywhere, hell we even had our 'Road Accident Ahead' signs out. Some tool came flying through the scene and TOG Officer on scene yelled at them, they kept going so he threw his torch at the car, it bounced off their car, they came to a stop and by christ did the TOG'y give it to the driver - LOL, it was great to watch. I still see him around quite a lot (the TOG'y - now ex) and we still laugh about it, but the idiot driver could have easily cleaned up someone.
    It wont have the impact in sparsely populated rural areas that it will in the heavily populated built up ones Trev.

    Freeway congestion is a real issue, slowing a huge number of flowing cars from 100kph to 40kph in the space of 1-200m has a huge potential for problems.
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