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    Frosty, Bright argue for Generic V8.

    http://www.v8x.com.au/index.php/comp...-for-a-spec-v8

    Engines other than V8s will feature under the Gen2 regulations in Supercars. But as Prodrive Racing Australia's Mark Winterbottom and Jason Bright argue, is it worth considering a spec V8 platform to maintain the current engine formula? V8X Supercar Magazine issue #99 ponders the question.

    Jason Bright said the following in the V8X Supercar Magazine roundtable published in issue #98: "I'm not a fan of bringing other engines in, personally. I think the V8 formula has worked very well for us. I've always felt we should listen to the fans more... what do they want? What's going to bring them through the gate because they're the ones that drive who's sponsoring us and which television networks want to pay to televise our races."

    Bright continues arguing that the dwindling level of funding manufacturers provide in Supercars means the series shouldn't be trying to pander to them.

    Winterbottom goes further, suggesting a spec engine could be an alternative to retain the V8.

    "The V8 is what we love and you have to be careful Gen2 doesn't impact on Supercars' following," said Winterbottom.

    "I'd like a one-make engine. It takes a lot of time and money to make some engines as competitive as others. The spec engine works well in other categories, which creates another aspect that we don't have to worry about.

    "From a drivers' point of view, the spec engine wouldn't be a bad way to go. Parity is the main thing. If the racing is close, then the entertainment side will be strong."
    I agree with them on a number of points.

    But Yeah nah.....

    I'm done if they go Spec V8.
    My Falcon family heritage: XY V8 Falcon 500, XYGT, XBGT, XC 351 GS, XD 4.1 Spack, EF wagon, AU Wagon, AU2 Wagon, AU2 XR8, BA XR8, BF XR8, FG XR6, Lucky last: Sprint 8. Oh wait, AU3 XLS Marlin Ute!

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    Me too, because you can bet your bottom dollar it will be predominately HMO(Holden) if they go that way.

    Although the new version HMO cylinder head is a derived design to that of a Ford head, since when has Chev ever had a Siamese port design.

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    Chev ditched the Siamese ex port layout with the introduction of LS.

    But yeah, ods on it would be LS based anyway.
    My Falcon family heritage: XY V8 Falcon 500, XYGT, XBGT, XC 351 GS, XD 4.1 Spack, EF wagon, AU Wagon, AU2 Wagon, AU2 XR8, BA XR8, BF XR8, FG XR6, Lucky last: Sprint 8. Oh wait, AU3 XLS Marlin Ute!

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    A control generic engine flies in the face of what is effectually a sport that is sustained by tribal warfare. It would, in my opinion kill the category and I would not be interested at all. I would go as far as suggest they go the other way providing manufactures with a platform which they can demonstrate their performance and engineering prowess and attract global players.

    Frosty sees it from a drivers perspective where close and competitive racing is seen as a draw card. In one sense it is, but this is underpinned by the equipment used and the supporters association with the brand and manufacture of such equipment. Making the cars generic mechanically makes the racing meaningless and pointless to me.
    Lifetime proud Ford Falcon enthusiast and owner of the following models XR, XY, XB, XC, XD, EB, AU, BA and FG.

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    Yep, might as well go the whole way and introduce a generic bodyshape too, because i don't know any manufacturer that would find the idea of adopting someone elses powerplant, especially a competitors, appealing.
    My Falcon family heritage: XY V8 Falcon 500, XYGT, XBGT, XC 351 GS, XD 4.1 Spack, EF wagon, AU Wagon, AU2 Wagon, AU2 XR8, BA XR8, BF XR8, FG XR6, Lucky last: Sprint 8. Oh wait, AU3 XLS Marlin Ute!

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    The series is in serious trouble. With No direction, suporters are loosing faith.

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    It has a huge identity issue.

    Is it entertainment?

    Is it manufacturer racing?

    Is it both?
    My Falcon family heritage: XY V8 Falcon 500, XYGT, XBGT, XC 351 GS, XD 4.1 Spack, EF wagon, AU Wagon, AU2 Wagon, AU2 XR8, BA XR8, BF XR8, FG XR6, Lucky last: Sprint 8. Oh wait, AU3 XLS Marlin Ute!

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    and now, the End is near, so I wait for the final curtain !
    YNWA ! off to CL 2018.
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    generic engine, Ford , Holden , Nissan , whatever, I will not follow
    I think Frosty is out of touch with the supporters here
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    really going to miss when the day comes NO Falcons - well in body form racing in the top league.
    Really don't know where I'll turn my interest when the day comes.
    YNWA ! off to CL 2018.
    Sydney is Sky Blue HAL Premiers/Champions 2017 - the Double.

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