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    ah huh.
    We do that as well defective.
    We have passed back much land.
    The Gov support in huge to me but like I said I just don't know how well its managed etc. and over the years I've never seen much positive response from the recipients but complain whatever is done is not/never good enough.
    Its like were on the back foot every single time.
    The contempt is due to this by most I guess - A$30B a year is spent on 500,000 Indigenous people.
    I'm no abc fanboi but this was interesting https://theconversation.com/factchec...-every-year-on

    and when I review that I was listening today on radio how Aged Care is handling our older gen right now.
    The food is shit as expected, seems the budget is about $6 per elderly person a day for 3 bloody meals !
    This is another storey but I'm pointing this out purely on cost comparison per person.
    Now many of these current retirees are Vets/business men women etcetc who have paid TAX all their working lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by defective View Post

    Over here whenever indigenous issues come up it seems to be almost treated with contempt by many.
    I think there has been a minority of people who have sensitized the broader Australian public to some issues.

    Or continued to play the victim card for no other purpose than self interests.

    Australia is no different to most other countries in the world, most were colonized, conquered or evolved through conflict and battle.

    Its been happening since man could walk out of the cave, in much the same way animals have evolved or become extinct.

    Its simply evolution..
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    Quote Originally Posted by FTe217 View Post
    ah huh.
    We do that as well defective.
    We have passed back much land.
    The Gov support in huge to me but like I said I just don't know how well its managed etc. and over the years I've never seen much positive response from the recipients but complain whatever is done is not/never good enough.
    Its like were on the back foot every single time.
    The contempt is due to this by most I guess - A$30B a year is spent on 500,000 Indigenous people.
    I'm no abc fanboi but this was interesting https://theconversation.com/factchec...-every-year-on

    and when I review that I was listening today on radio how Aged Care is handling our older gen right now.
    The food is shit as expected, seems the budget is about $6 per elderly person a day for 3 bloody meals !
    This is another storey but I'm pointing this out purely on cost comparison per person.
    Now many of these current retirees are Vets/business men women etcetc who have paid TAX all their working lives.
    Certainly seems like there is a high level of either mis management or gross incompetence in the way these matters are handled.


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    Quote Originally Posted by defective View Post
    Treaty of waitangi is the single biggest difference.

    Large parts of nz that were bought/stolen/conquered back in the day were handed back to Maori ownership, some of the tribes in nz have some huge business interests going, ngai tahu is one of the richest I believe.
    Just recently the new govt had to pay 350 million in treaty reparations, which is an ongoing settlement payment.

    It's basically giving Maori the resources to be on a level playing field as much as possible, and the ability to help themselves.

    Nz has similar issues to Aus with Maori having higher incarceration rates, lower education and higher unemployment, and it's certainly not perfect but it's a step in the right direction.

    Over here whenever indigenous issues come up it seems to be almost treated with contempt by many.
    We have aboriginal leaders saying the date isn’t the issue though. You can’t take back what’s occurred and to raise the debate only once a year at that time shows you how insincere the movement really is.

    Where is the coverage right now!

    It’s died, dead, only to be raised again, same time same channel by people who are self serving hypocrits.


    I would support a date change if we were to become a republic.

    I can’t be sure but I don’t believe a single person died the day the first fleet landed. My recollection is it was late afternoon due to weather. It is the formal acquirement and settlement of what will become Aust. Even federation, brings back aspects of the first fleet.

    This is the beginning and why the date is used as taught to me.

    Maybe that’s wrong
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    Australian History

    1606 First recorded landing by Europeans, William Jansz, in Australia, on the west coast of Cape York Peninsula.

    1770 April 29 - Captain James Cook first sets foot in New South Wales at Botany Bay.

    1788 January 26 - Captain Arthur Phillip, commanding the First Fleet, sails into Port Jackson, establishes the first colonial settlement at Sydney Cove.

    1801-03 Captain Matthew Flinders circumnavigates the Australian mainland, proving it is an island.

    1824 Hume and Hovell open an overland route from Sydney to the future site of Melbourne.

    1825 Van Diemen's Land (renamed Tasmania in 1855) established as a separate colony.

    1829 Charles Fremantle lands on the south-west coast, later that year 70 settlers establish the colony of Western Australia.

    1829-30 Charles Sturt explores the Murray River and paves the way for the founding of Adelaide in 1836.

    1835 John Batman lands at the future site of Melbourne.

    1851 Gold discovered in New South Wales and Victoria. Victoria gains separation from New South Wales.

    1859 The colony of Queensland is created.

    1860-61 Burke and Wills reach the Gulf of Carpentaria.

    1868 Transportation of convicts to Australia ceases.

    1898-99 The people of the future Commonwealth of Australia approve a constitution for the new nation.

    1901 January 1, Federation.

    The first Governor-General of Australia, the Right Honourable John Adrian Louis Hope, proclaimed Australia a Commonwealth at a ceremony at Centennial Park, Sydney. The population of Australia at that time was 3.8 million, 2.8 million born here.

    Edmund Barton was the first Prime Minister.

    The first Commonwealth Parliament met in Melbourne, the temporary seat of the Federal Government.

    1915 April 25 - The Anzacs land at Gallipoli.
    ANZAC, Australia and New Zealand Army Corps, the soldiers from those countries who landed at Gallipoli on 25 April 1915.
    ANZAC Day, a public holiday in Australia and New Zealand, which honours those servicemen who lost their lives serving their respective countries.

    1927 The federal capital is transferred from Melbourne to Canberra.

    1930s Australia's economy slumps as the Great Depression takes hold.

    1939 September 3 - Australia enters World War II.

    1942 Japanese bombers attack Darwin, midget submarines enter Sydney Harbour.

    1949 Sir Robert Menzies begins an 18-year term as Prime Minister.

    1951 The ANZUS Treaty is signed by Australia, New Zealand and the USA.

    1950-53 Australian troops take part in the Korean war, as part of the United Nations forces.

    1964 Australia's first involvement in the Vietnam war.

    1987 October 20 - 'Black Tuesday' on Australian stockmarkets.

    1988 Australia celebrates 200 years of European settlement.
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