Yep, it’s that time of the year.
What are your feelings on this issue?
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Yep, it’s that time of the year.
What are your feelings on this issue?
Happy Australia Day!
A day to celebrate everything good about Australia and being Australian.
It's meant to be an inclusive day, not a divisive day.
It won't matter what date you change it to, some minority groups will always find a way to be divisive and create hate.
There hasn't been a country in history that wasn't founded on settlement, re-civilization, uprising, conflict or war, it's simply evolution.
We can't change it, none of us were responsible for it, time to embrace it and move on.
That’s right. Most countries were formed from fire that cost lives. Some natives some not to that land.
I supposed the point there is do those other countries landmark those occasions. I suspect without researching is the answer to that Is some do and others don’t.
So is there really a problem?
This is largely going to be driven from the left leaning of political awakening.
Instinctively I have a hard time believing our indigenous population spend time thinking about this let alone think about last year or the year before that. Like most of us consumed in the here and now, if that population was so dead set against this, I would support them.
What I see is white people running their mouths telling indigenous people how to feel, to effectively live in the past.
White people who most likely support China and their human rights, animal abuse, atrocities day to day.
We can’t make an issue of this for one day then have it go away.
We can’t have cricket Australia do what they have nor the ABC conduct themselves as they have done.
While polls say this is a minority, the minority is held by people in power of influence. It’s fair to say that organisers of events are being held to ransom now, that there is a sentiment that this is getting old and just get it over with.
I know I am sick to death of it. So.
Imo
Morrison needs to grow a set.
Take this issue to the indigenous community and tell them this is their call to make and their alone.
You can’t change history so I would imagine those who are genuinely impacted with always feel grief on this day but maybe take solace that no one else is celebrating.
I wouldn’t shift the date. It’s either this date or no date at all and the nation loses the public holiday and any recognition of being.
You want the date gone, it’s gone and there is no replacement
Independence Day?
Bastille day?
Here's a list of over 100 similar days other countries celebrate for similar independence/conquest/victory reasons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_day
I agree mate it's just this isn't going away.
Covid has gone out the windows based on twitter protest pictures.
We are a country who can't support our own. Never have.
In 2020 we had states turn against each other.
If I'm Morrison, Australia day gets cancelled and nothing replaces it.
This is what happened to my brother and I growing up. If we argued over a toy or similar and couldn't agree, we both lost out.
Indigenous people can't even agree on it, some want it changed some don't, so where's that leave us? It's a complex situation. Is changing the date going to take away the pain of the past? No it won't. Would take away our connection to our past of which some first Australia's are sympathetic to. Most of us only have a connection to this country when our family arrived n connection to the old country is lost n every new Australian would see 26th as a new beginning for them and their family
Are people getting behind a movement of which there are generations of separation to point where any direct connection is kinda lost. Are they doing it because it goes against the government? What are their reasons. I don't feel the pain of loss from my ancestors on the invasion of my ancestry country.
Now I'm not denying that we all have some growth to do and that maybe changing the date is a step towards that growth.
So I'm Scottish heritage n Scotland was invaded by the English hundreds of years ago n to this date Scotland is still fighting for independence. So should I feel some way about this? I don't because my family has been here for many generations n even if I was living in Scotland I still wouldn't feel anh way about it. Would support Scotland's independence? Yes I would.
And maybe that's a way forward where we seek independence from England and on that day of independence we could find a day that brings all of us together .
I don't know, I don't celebrate Australia day and I don't need another reason to have a beer with mates. I think some choices made by organizations to protest can only create more division and people on both sides will not compromise their views in conversation about it. I feel bad for the way indigenous people have and are treated to this day.
But I like the idea of seeking our own independence and on the day we all create a new point for us all to share n rejoice in. Either way it's very hard to have open conversations about it, cause if u say this ya shouted down or if u say that ya shouted down as well. No one wants to listen. I watch the news this arvo with a person leading protest March in Adelaide is giving the finger (to who or what I don't know) but hardly a person that would allow u free expression of your feelings n views. Lot of anger n hatered based on a past they may have very little connection with apart from the obvious. But that's a view based on what the news report puts out.
So I'm going to sit on the fence for now but would probably lean towards a date change. Still don't think it'll change the pain first nations people feel. But I can't speak about that I can only share my views
Regards
Fence sitter.
I am with Ian, leave it as the 26 th, or do nothing. No celebrations / protests ,/ public holiday.
If the date is changed, there will be another minority complain.
So it's all or nothing
Facts about Australia Day
Our Education system is not competently advising our children !!
Don't expect the media to educate you that's not part of their agenda. Australia Day does not celebrate the arrival of the first fleet or
the invasion of anything.
Captain Cook did not arrive in Australia on the 26th of January. The Landing of Captain Cook in Sydney happened on the 28th of April 1770 -
not on the 26th of January 1770.
The First Fleet arrived in Botany Bay on the 18th of January. The 26th was chosen as Australia Day for a different reason; however, Captain
Cook's landing was included in Australia Day celebrations as a reminder of a significant historical event.
Since the extravagant bicentenary celebrations of 1988, when Sydney-siders decided Captain Cook's landing should become the focus of the
Australia Day commemoration, the importance of this date for all Australians has begun to fade.
Now, a generation later, it's all but lost.
This is because our politicians and educators have not been doing a good job promoting the day. Our politicians have not been advertising
the real reason for
Australia Day, and our educators have not been teaching our children the importance of the 26th of January to all Australians.
The media, as usual, is happy to twist the truth for the sake of controversy.
In recent years, the media has helped fan the flames of discontent among the Aboriginal community. Many are now so offended by what they see
as a celebration of the beginning of the darkest days of
Various local Councils are seeking to remove themselves from Australia Day celebrations, even refusing to participate in citizenship
ceremonies and calls are going out to have Australia Day on a different day.
The big question is, why has the Government allowed this misconception to continue?
Captain Cook didn't land on the 26th of January. So changing the date of any celebration of Captain Cook's landing would not have any impact
on Australia Day, but maybe it would clear the way for the truth about Australia Day.
The reality is, the Aborigines in this country suffered terribly under the hands of British colonialism. This is as much Australia's history
as the landing of the first fleet, and both should be remembered, equally. Both should be taught, side by side, in our schools.
Australians of today abhor what was done under British governance to the Aborigines. We abhor what was done under British governance to the
Irish and many other cultures around the world. So, after the horrors of WWII, we decided to fix it.
We became our own people.
On the 26th of January 1949, the Australian nationality came into existence when the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 was enacted. That
was the day we were first called Australians and allowed to travel with Passports as Australians.
Under the Nationality Act 1920 (Cth), all Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders born after January 1, 1921, gained the status of British
subjects. In 1949, therefore, they automatically became Australian citizens under the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948.
Before that special date, all people living in Australia, including Aborigines born after 1921, were called 'British Subjects' and forced to
travel on British Passports and fight in British wars.
We all became Australians on the same day!
This is why we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th of January!
This was the day Australians became free to make our own decisions about which wars we would fight and how our citizens would be treated. It
was the day Aborigines were declared Australians.
Until this date, Aborigines were not protected by law. For the first time since Cook's landing, this new Act gave Aboriginal Australians by
inference and precedent the full protection of Australian law.
Because of this Act, the government became free to help Aborigines, and since that day much has been done to assist Aboriginal Australians,
including saying 'sorry' for the previous atrocities done before this law came into being.
This was a great day for all Australians!
This is why the 26th of January is the day new Australians receive their citizenship. It is a day which celebrates the implementation of the
Nationality and Citizenship Act of 1948 - the Act which gave freedom and protection to the first Australians and gives all Australians, old
and new, the right to live under the protection of Australian Law, united as one nation.
Now, isn't that cause for celebration?
Education is the key! There is a great need for education on the real reason we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th of January. This reason
needs to be advertised and taught in schools. We all need to remember this one very special day in Australia's history when freedom came to
all Australians.
What was achieved that day is something for which all Australians can be proud!
We need to remember both the good and the bad in our history, but the emphasis must be the freedom and unity all Australians now have,
because of what was done on the 26th of January 1949, to allow all of us to live without fear in a land of peace.
Isn't it time all Australians were taught the real reason we celebrate Australia Day on January 26
Supposedly thousands attended rally’s around the country.
It’s never going to be free of conflict now. It might well be the minority but seemingly that doesn’t matter now.
If it’s genuinely upsetting to aborigines, as far as I’m concerned no date is fitting. If people are so hell bent on living in the past, then sorry we as a nation have failed. That failure is best served by removing any celebration, holiday, words events from any day of the year.
It’s time to stop dicking around.
If you people want to complain, keep taking the complaints away. If it’s genuinely upsetting, then it should be comforting to them to no the country will no longer recognise any form of establishment, ever.
It will actually be fitting as those complaining and protesting return home to by out of China on eBay.
The 26th of January is not the date the country was “invaded”, Cook arrived April 19th 1770, it’s the date when you could first become a citizen....
The media are trouble making spastics.
Changing the date will do exactly nothing other than pandering to the perpetually offended.