As with pretty much everything, the truth shall set you free...
https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-l...car-it-builds/
The government cheese must have run out in the US, it's about time that the EV scam is exposed for the furphy it is.
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As with pretty much everything, the truth shall set you free...
https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-l...car-it-builds/
The government cheese must have run out in the US, it's about time that the EV scam is exposed for the furphy it is.
Ford employees are privately very worried about the whole thing.
I have a family friend in the local engineering team and the consensus within the group he leads is that the EV race is one to the bottom.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Vman
Who would've thought that building EVs profitability isn't something that you can do overnight. Tesla are killing it. Why would anyone buy other brands in the EV space is beyond me.
Tesla took their medicine years ago.
Few things to remember though is that Ford had a stop sale for a while to trace a fault with the F150 trying to figure if it was design or manufacturing (it was the latter).
Look at Ford pricing. Mach E is $16k dearer than the Model Y for a car with less space, less range, less performance and less charging infrastructure. F150 is going up in price as well. Dealers are price gouging the EVs with huge mark ups in the states.
Quicker Ford ditch the dealer network, the quicker they'll make money on EVs.
And OP, I've over 250,000 kms in EVs in Australia with one at 160,000 in under 6 years. Best car I've ever owned. Less than 10% degradation in that time as well. Please share how they're a scam?!
The real scam is how people are so hooked to petrol by the Middle East that they would fight against something that makes their lives better.
They are a scam when viewed from the perspective of environmental impact during manufacture (inclusive of raw material acquisition), impact during disposal/decommissioning and the impact on the grid should EVs in their current guise get to 20% of the cars on the road. The criminals posing as environmentalists have ensured baseload generation will become extinct, something necessary should the car fleet be 20% EV.Quote:
Originally Posted by kypez
Oh and anyone that thinks Tesla are making money on each car... keep dreaming. US govco subsidies make their numbers look far better than they really are.
Oh dear. It's got nothing to do with environmental impact but I can see you subscribe to all the fake news out there. It's all about fuel security and not being dependant on questionable regimes. This is why govts are so keen about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loud
The battery packs are 92% reusable/recyclable (I'm about to get one to use for my house) because battery density doesn't matter when you don't have space limitations. Numerous companies exist to repurpose battery packs when they can't be used on the cars.
Stop believing everything you read on the internet.
I got solar and haven't used the grid to charge my cars for 10 months out of 12.
Tesla made $4.1 billion in profit. The inconvenient truth is that they are manufactured in countries other than the USA and are very profitable now. US doesn't subside the Australian market.
Come on, get educated on the subject and stop with the fake news. And let go of your love affair to send money to the middle east.
Enjoy the KoolAid.Quote:
Originally Posted by kypez
Oh and watch "Planet of the Humans" when you have a chance, it might be educational.
Oh the irony of you using "KoolAid" when you're hooked to a liquid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loud
That's ok. Your response happens when people come out with only one argument (environmental) only to be met with another thought they never considered.
Here is a hint, govts don't care about the environment. They do care about fuel security which we have very little of in Australia. If war does breakout in the middle east as has been escalating, I'll be laughing in my EV enjoying FREE FUEL whilst you argue its environmental benefits.
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100% true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loud
Toyota are massive skeptics too.
Only because they bet the house on petrol. They know their dealer network and supply chain investments can't survive without diesel and petrol.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Vman
Don't forget, when there was a chip shortage, Toyota had hardly any issues because of contracts they put in years earlier. Same thing for their (non) EV strategy
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