Passenger cars not a priority in Australia: David fleet.

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18th January 2018, 07:45 AM
4Vman

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Originally Posted by Elks

The threat is real for the traditional sedan. It's simply stuck in no mans land between cheap, mostly korean hatches and SUV's.

What Ford need to do with their SUV is work on the S. Because their current range is just UV's

Yep.

Firstly Sedan sales (in all sizes) have been eroded away to expose what's left as mainly performance/premium/luxury.

There's still demand for performance/premium/luxury sedans (Ask MB/Audi/BMW/AMG etc), it's just that these products aren't that popular in the US so Ford have no motivation to compete with the Euro's.

Good analogy Too Tony, Ford and the Asian/Korean car companies sell MPV's, (Multi Purpose Vehicles) not true SUV's.

Edge ST will be fords first foray (outside of Territory turbo and F6X) into the true SUV space.

Raptor will be a SOV: Sports Offroad Vehicle.
18th January 2018, 10:39 AM
HSE2

Well I am prepared to say the world has gone mad and a correction is on the way.

Lifestyle products are fantastic, serve the "what if" mantra perfectly. Electrification doesn't really suit that all that well.

Products go in cycles. The passenger car will come back when people realise the size of this trucks is worse than the large sedan they removed from our lives
18th January 2018, 11:50 AM
dash gt

Quote:

Originally Posted by HSE2

Well I am prepared to say the world has gone mad and a correction is on the way.

Lifestyle products are fantastic, serve the "what if" mantra perfectly. Electrification doesn't really suit that all that well.

Products go in cycles. The passenger car will come back when people realise the size of this trucks is worse than the large sedan they removed from our lives

I dont know about that.

The vision out of an SUV / 4X4 is far better then a sedan or small car. They are also easier to get in and out of and in a lot of cases most have extra seating ability.

The midsize / large sedan market is on the way out. Has been for the last 10 years.
18th January 2018, 12:05 PM
4Vman

Quote:

Originally Posted by dash gt

I dont know about that.

The vision out of an SUV / 4X4 is far better then a sedan or small car. They are also easier to get in and out of and in a lot of cases most have extra seating ability.

The midsize / large sedan market is on the way out. Has been for the last 10 years.

It comes back to the passion for motoring and performance.

If that continues to be policed out of existence so will demand for Sports performance products
18th January 2018, 12:46 PM
WASP

Quote:

Originally Posted by HSE2

Well I am prepared to say the world has gone mad and a correction is on the way.

Lifestyle products are fantastic, serve the "what if" mantra perfectly. Electrification doesn't really suit that all that well.

Products go in cycles. The passenger car will come back when people realise the size of this trucks is worse than the large sedan they removed from our lives

The world is in a constant state of correction Ian That said, I'm unsure of the large sedan will return as we've known them, but large 'like' autonomous sedans may.
18th January 2018, 05:06 PM
Elks

Quote:

Originally Posted by dash gt

I dont know about that.

The vision out of an SUV / 4X4 is far better then a sedan or small car. They are also easier to get in and out of and in a lot of cases most have extra seating ability.

The midsize / large sedan market is on the way out. Has been for the last 10 years.

Yep.. Time is approaching for the Jeep to go. And we have been shopping around with for a new car for the wife. And guess what, sedan/hatch is off the list. We were in a new car showroom, sat in a mid size sedan, and nope, no longer ok. She now likes the High driving position because she can see over the traffic. ( Although soon everyone will be in an SUV and the advantage will be lost.)
18th January 2018, 06:44 PM
TS50

The argument for the demise of the large sedan was the running costs
Almost all SUVs cost more to run
Tyres / fuel / servicing are just as dear, if not dearer

I hate the suvs when driving a proper car, they are so big you cant see around/ over them
Bant the things
19th January 2018, 12:50 AM
Randel

Quote:

Originally Posted by TS50

The argument for the demise of the large sedan was the running costs
Almost all SUVs cost more to run
Tyres / fuel / servicing are just as dear, if not dearer

I hate the suvs when driving a proper car, they are so big you cant see around/ over them
Bant the things

Wish I could 'thanks' this post more than once ;).

When people realise the cost of their SUV tyres, after stepping up from a Getz or Corolla.... But at least you can see over the traffic, and go off road up that kerb when dropping the kiddies off at school... LOL Priceless :highly_amused:
19th January 2018, 09:46 AM
dash gt

Quote:

Originally Posted by TS50

The argument for the demise of the large sedan was the running costs
Almost all SUVs cost more to run
Tyres / fuel / servicing are just as dear, if not dearer

I hate the suvs when driving a proper car, they are so big you cant see around/ over them
Bant the things

People are prepared to bare the cost with the extra functionality and safety. The bigger the car the safer it is some people believe.
19th January 2018, 11:04 AM
4Vman

New BMW X4 "SUV"

Anyone else notice the subtle changing of BMW SUV's?

http://s3.caradvice.com.au/thumb/136...ouflage_02.jpg

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