Holy Grail website is up

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Originally Posted by Perko

I love the idea of the product. The fact that it looks factory is even better. The main issue for me is I just can't afford it. The second is that it is not Ford endorsed and how far do you mod before that purity is diluted.

Next year I would like to add an intercooler to the XR8. Not for a power grab but to keep intake temps down and a finish to the motor. If this is still an option I will genuinely look at it. If this is not an option then the only other I would consider would be the Herrod product.

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I put a much larger intercooler on my XR6T ute from almost day one. It helped a lot particularly in summer.

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Originally Posted by HSE2

It’s not so much the appearance but the consistency in the methodology of the tune.

This is where you will get differing opinions. Most tunes are a cheat. They tamper with a few parameters and away you go armed with your dyno sheet improvement proof.

This isn’t that. In fact I am not sure this has occurred anywhere in the world.

In most cases car companies are responsible for new engines. In this case it was prodrive lead and driven by one man.

In most cases the donor product doesn’t become extinct but yet the engine could be phased out.

In all cases the “owner” of the engine doesn’t come back and revisit the situation 3 years out of product production.

In terms of purity, that’s running at 100% because the motivation is one that says you need to see, feel and hear what OUR engine is like, by our hand.

No other entity is able to do that.

That’s a particular way of looking at the situation and I feel personally it’s the only way in a purity sense because it accurately looks at the elements that make up the Miami story.

In terms of the product is placed in, the highest name plate in the country, GT has a lot of baggage attached.

For concourse judging for example, not even this by whom is enough to be recognised in any other way other than modified.

It will not be 100% agreement, but looking at the way the media have reacted, outside the purists who understand what’s happened, this coverage is more likely to give far greater credibility to the power of this association in both acceptance and desirability.

All of a sudden any risk associated with depreciation of the donor car by this act is restricted as awareness increases.

The exclusivity doesn’t hurt.

This is the W1 of Miami by a team who were involved at a level that’s unprecedented outside of organisations called crosworth.

If you tick every option box, you are staring at a post manufacturing W1 product that is way more exclusive.

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I do like the thought of the effort and the history that this package does come with. It will be whether they have any units left next year. Everything going to plan I will be able to grab on first quarter 2020. However I would think that all units would be taken by then. I was hoping that these units would become a part of a package, similar to what Tickford have done. Because if they did, I would also look to invest in a Sprint-like suspension set up.

However, none of this is in my control. So for the moment it is a want and we will see what is available next year. Till then I will be watching who gets them and what their feedback is.

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Originally Posted by flappist

I put a much larger intercooler on my XR6T ute from almost day one. It helped a lot particularly in summer.

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That is what I have read with a couple of people who have done the same with the Miami and have not done a tune.

Lets talk performance figures.

What acceleration times will someone expect out of this intercooler + Tune package?

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Originally Posted by Futura

Lets talk performance figures.

What acceleration times will someone expect out of this intercooler + Tune package?

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With good grip.

0-100 in 4.2, 400m 12.2 @ 197 kph.

I learned a very important lesson the first time I took my GT-P to Willowbank (July 2003).
I was at a test and tune to see what it could do and the first couple of runs were pretty ordinary with bogging or spin and my best was 14.2.
On one of the runs I was lined up next to a "banana buggy" driven by a strange looking person wearing wrap around glasses and a 500 year old open face helmet.
The lights went green and this thing took off like a rocket but interestingly after the 200m mark I was catching it. It went through in the 12s way ahead of me.
I found the driver after the run and asked him about this car that was basically thrashing everything with a falcon or commodore badge.
He told me it was a VW chassis with a RX7 rotary engine and would only do 150km/h flat out which is why I started to catch him but it weighed about 1000kg with him on board.
He paid $5k for it and it was his "play in the traffic" car which he enjoyed thrashing much more expensive cars with.

Lesson was I could have spent double what his car cost on mods and still not come close to beating him.
From that day on anything I did to any of my cars was focused on braking and handling primarily with moderate power increases and apart from a similar night once in my second F6 I have never been on a drag strip since.
I chose to concentrate on circuits and of course the road and found the FPVs were far more suited to that environment.

Looking at the holy grail kit I suspect that this was a similar focus for them as well.

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

With good grip.

0-100 in 4.2, 400m 12.2 @ 197 kph.

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Are these actual test figures?

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Originally Posted by Futura

Are these actual test figures?

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Guestimates. lol

Wonder if wheels or motor are interested in running some performance numbers (track and strip)

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Originally Posted by Futura

Wonder if wheels or motor are interested in running some performance numbers (track and strip)

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I think i can safely say Motor most likely will.