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    Did they emission test the GTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HSE2 View Post
    Did they emission test the GTF?
    Going by the figures no. It has the same emissions as the 335.

    I was confident that Ford would not hurt FPV customers with a 351 tune in XR8.

    We wont see an F6 anytime soon, the books are shut as far as Falcon goes.
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    That's right.
    That means they can take the turbo engine and treat it the same as GTF via tuning as a theory.

    If you say 16 kws was safe in the tune of the GTF over the GT a similar sort of action would see a Xr6T move to 286Kws. My guess would be 285 or 290 might be a target if there was a business case to send the Xr6T out as a celebration towards the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Vman View Post
    About the only thing you can take from that article is there will be no 351 XR8.
    They have been quite clear about that all along.

    The idea of resurrecting the F6310 to replace the XR8 might look good on the surface, but being that the problem is not engines, they could always order pistons turbo's etc. But the HD ZF transmissions, which if they could get they would just build XR8.
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    All the angst about XR8 being hard to get or sold out has vanished too...
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    They aren't talking about doing a F6 in that article, nothing to do with F6.

    What the author is suggesting is the output of the Xr6T could go up. Depending on how the question was asked, he is saying Ford via David, was less negative in his answer than he was with 351.


    The second thing you can take from that article is that Ford are still looking for opportunities to get through to 2016.

    We reported this line here after the GTF launch.

    Similar questions were asked on and off the record with pretty much the same result.
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    It is a shame though that they won't use the F6 engine and consign it to the bin. That 310kw motor is more than just a tune, it has unique internals to support it's hi-po application and was built in the same manner and with the same mindset that gave us FPV's V8's. To me it demonstrated what the I6 was capable of and by extension what Ford and FPV were capable of, by developing a home-grown performance car using what resources they had available within its 4 walls, not going to the US parts bin for a solution.

    To me the author of the article was reading into things that weren't there.

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    This might make it easier then.


    David Wilkinson, Ford Australia's vehicle line director for the E8 platform (Falcon and Territory), ruled out the 351kW's return in an XR8 but was not as certain about the powered up turbo six.

    Wilkinson told motoring.com.au there was no "present plan" to offer the more highly boosted engine in the FG X turbocharged six-cylinder models, but shied away from a blanket rejection.

    Wilkinson was also less than definite when asked about the prospect of special Falcon editions between now and the scheduled end of its production in October 2016.

    I dont want to talk about that. We obviously continue to look at the market and any opportunities."

    Wilkinson made it clear, however, that the 351kW engine was reserved for the GT-F.
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    Now Drive is in on it:

    http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/h...25-11t6ue.html

    An insider from the company has told Drive a limited edition XR6 Turbo is emerging as the most likely candidate for an upgrade, which would likely comprise a power boost and more superior running gear.

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    Well they are pretty good aren't they. You know what has been said here before on this subject. You simply don't have to be too smart to see where the opportunities are and then from those opportunities work out what is most likely.
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