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    Well, not confirmed or denied...

    50% more Mustangs sold which is interesting.

    If it does die, what will poor Stupidcars GM teams do? Two platforms on potential death row.

    No wonder Kelly wants Mustang

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    Quote Originally Posted by kypez View Post
    Well, not confirmed or denied...

    50% more Mustangs sold which is interesting.

    If it does die, what will poor Stupidcars GM teams do? Two platforms on potential death row.

    No wonder Kelly wants Mustang
    Well it does pose a very interesting question around Supercars.

    What we know:

    - Roland is quietly exiting out the back door.

    - Holden allegedly not happy with the "monopoly" Roland has on ZB hardware.

    - Holden are allegedly pulling "HRT" as we know it apart and sharing the money more evenly amongst all ZB runners for 2020.

    - ZB sales are lower than forecast, ZB as a product likely to be retired around 2022.

    - "If" Camaro goes by 2023 it would kill any aspiration for Holden to homologate Camaro under the 2021 rule revisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Vman View Post
    - Holden allegedly not happy with the "monopoly" Roland has on ZB hardware.

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    And who's fault is that then.

    HMS Put all their eggs in that basket. In doing so burned HSV, BJR, Kelly, GRM, and all the privateers, all for 888. Was a dumb decision to start with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elks View Post
    And who's fault is that then.

    HMS Put all their eggs in that basket. In doing so burned HSV, BJR, Kelly, GRM, and all the privateers, all for 888. Was a dumb decision to start with.
    Yep.

    I don't think Holden saw the monopoly scenario playing out the way it did which was dumb of them.
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    haha, what a lovely slow death of GM here.
    No mercy from me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FTe217 View Post
    haha, what a lovely slow death of GM here.
    No mercy from me.

    Yet when the Ford merger with GM articles were floating it was Ford that was painted as the entity in trouble.

    Our cars are a real worry. China is a disaster which it is for everyone but we are especially bad.

    Remember all our bright stars heading to China? Well guess what now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HSE2 View Post
    Yet when the Ford merger with GM articles were floating it was Ford that was painted as the entity in trouble.

    Our cars are a real worry. China is a disaster which it is for everyone but we are especially bad.

    Remember all our bright stars heading to China? Well guess what now?
    If GM drop Camaro it doesn't mean they're in trouble.
    It would be sad to see it go we need more exciting cars out there not more shitbox pickups and SUVs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HSE2 View Post
    Yet when the Ford merger with GM articles were floating it was Ford that was painted as the entity in trouble.

    Our cars are a real worry. China is a disaster which it is for everyone but we are especially bad.

    Remember all our bright stars heading to China? Well guess what now?
    They are both in trouble tbh by the look of it.

    Can you expand more on what you've quoted ?
    Our cars a real worry ? due to the lack of range ?

    China ? being I have been traveling there the last 15yrs my observations on the road is :
    VW at the volume end user is huge, they invested there 40odd yrs ago.
    GM, have built a good footprint there now, invested long ago as well, I see many GM vehicles on the road during my travels.

    Yes I remember many of our own being assigned there.
    My read long ago re Ford is not having enough Distribution channels around that vast country.
    Not sure its still a prob but.....I don't see as many as I would expect on the road.
    Mondeo here and there, I actually can't even recall what other models I see from time to time.

    Obviously SUV's/7 seater people movers are big in numbers, Ford do not have anything in this game there.
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