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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Vman View Post
    Avi is great, exposes the unpopular truth.

    A lot don't like him, and he can be a pest at times, but he certainly shows these protests in a different light.
    I loved his response at the blm protests when a white guy told him to shut up...

    “So you, a white male is telling me, a person of colour to shut up at a BLM protest?”


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    In the words of a wise man: if you don't read the papers you're uninformed, if you do read the papers you're misinformed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Vman View Post
    So its about money then.....
    Where activists get involved, maybe the that hurts the general discussion.

    Again from a psychological perspective, if I understand what the experts are saying, it’s not the date that will be the issue but representation of deep seated emotional stress around the event.

    That means if you change the date to say the 30th and you still call it Australia Day and the optic is celebrating the countries formation, nothing changes.

    These experts are saying it’s not the date but effectively the name. Australia Day.

    The only way they say you deal with these sort of emotions is basically consolatory remorse and reflection based in respect and acknowledgement.

    They cite one big issue with a date change is ongoing resentment. If say the population is split 50/50 then changing the date will always serve as a different reminder about what has subsequently occurred and why.

    Changing the format of the day, abolishing the day, seem to be the psychological preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Vman View Post
    Avi is great, exposes the unpopular truth.

    A lot don't like him, and he can be a pest at times, but he certainly shows these protests in a different light.
    He was detained and removed without being charged. It’s going to be interesting to see where this one goes legally because that’s a lot like kidnapping.

    Is he being antagonistic? Yes. The nature of the questions and based in previous similar events where it’s clear the public have no understanding or little as to why they are protesting, makes it disturbing the peace.

    Let us think about that.

    A cause that should be concerning as it does go to mental health of our indigenous community, and those who attend in protest as so embarrassingly incompetent at comprehension, police act to stop the exposure.


    This is why I say, our leaders have to go directly to these communities and see first hand the situation. If people need help, they have to get it because you can’t just shut this away because the date isn’t the 26th.

    The other thing about all this and especially when it comes to YouTube and content providers.

    If Arvi comes across people who do mount cohesive points, would he show them?

    I did come across an aboriginal influencer on social media. She says there is no such issue in the greater indigenous community.

    That maybe true, but.....

    There is a market for aboriginal people to tell white Australia there is no issue to address. It’s the biggest market possible from which to grow and become successful.

    Take BLM and white privilege

    A black social influencer talking like it’s not a white or race issue will attract that portion or demographic that wants to believe that.

    That’s not dismissing it as genuine or even the truth but rather it comes back to the simple does it sound right test.

    We are at the lowest point where we are being asked or expected to not think for ourselves.

    Supposedly a shop keeper somewhere in Australia kicked out patrons who refused to remove items of clothing that had the Australia flag on it.

    It’s not going to go away. It’s going to keep escalating. Leadership is about getting to the truth. The first part of that is to understand the genuine issues in the community where the issues are.

    Polls of support don’t cut it when we get to mental health impacts. Imo that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HSE2 View Post
    He was detained and removed without being charged. It’s going to be interesting to see where this one goes legally because that’s a lot like kidnapping.

    Is he being antagonistic? Yes. The nature of the questions and based in previous similar events where it’s clear the public have no understanding or little as to why they are protesting, makes it disturbing the peace.

    Let us think about that.

    A cause that should be concerning as it does go to mental health of our indigenous community, and those who attend in protest as so embarrassingly incompetent at comprehension, police act to stop the exposure.


    This is why I say, our leaders have to go directly to these communities and see first hand the situation. If people need help, they have to get it because you can’t just shut this away because the date isn’t the 26th.

    The other thing about all this and especially when it comes to YouTube and content providers.

    If Arvi comes across people who do mount cohesive points, would he show them?

    I did come across an aboriginal influencer on social media. She says there is no such issue in the greater indigenous community.

    That maybe true, but.....

    There is a market for aboriginal people to tell white Australia there is no issue to address. It’s the biggest market possible from which to grow and become successful.

    Take BLM and white privilege

    A black social influencer talking like it’s not a white or race issue will attract that portion or demographic that wants to believe that.

    That’s not dismissing it as genuine or even the truth but rather it comes back to the simple does it sound right test.

    We are at the lowest point where we are being asked or expected to not think for ourselves.

    Supposedly a shop keeper somewhere in Australia kicked out patrons who refused to remove items of clothing that had the Australia flag on it.

    It’s not going to go away. It’s going to keep escalating. Leadership is about getting to the truth. The first part of that is to understand the genuine issues in the community where the issues are.

    Polls of support don’t cut it when we get to mental health impacts. Imo that is.
    Interesting strategy the Police have.

    On numerous occasions he's been asked to move on, despite not doing anything wrong.

    I've never seen him act rudely or aggressively despite being attacked for his questions.

    It appears if you ask questions that expose peoples lack of intelligence you're disturbing the peace, ironically the people protesting are creating traffic mayhem and public nuisance.

    Other reporters are allowed to mingle, it appears the Police now have the power to steer journalistic direction too.
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    I think, and I could be wrong here, but taking aborigines from their land and relocating them elsewhere was something we did.

    The police used the same model.

    I don’t understand how Victoria police think that taking a person to any other location than the station or his home is acceptable.

    What if something had gone wrong? What if Arvi was attacked through being in a location he never entered of his own free will.

    I don’t see how this is lawful at all but then this is Victoria police.
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    Loudest voices come from the cities, not the bush

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    Yep, they probably visit the Bush as much as we do

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