Absolutely! i remember seeing the original Ford V8SC engine many years ago in a DJR Falcon... VERY basic compared to what we have today.Originally Posted by Falc'man
Sounds good, Norm. It makes sense, this could be viewed as an early test/prototype motor to lay the groundwork.
Anyhow, here's a pic of the motor.
My Falcon family heritage: XY V8 Falcon 500, XYGT, XBGT, XC 351 GS, XD 4.1 Spack, EF wagon, AU Wagon, AU2 Wagon, AU2 XR8, BA XR8, BF XR8, FG XR6, Sprint 8. AU3 XLS Marlin Ute, FG2 Ute, 996.2 Carrera, MY24 Raptor.
Glorious!
How much?!
That would be a nice little set up for a project car, perhaps a certain GT3 spec GT that is on the boil at the moment? I would hate to think of the cost though, definitely not for the "budget" project.
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hmmm.... not much of a website, but if the boys want to get hold of them this is all they need...
http://www.ire.net.au/
“…The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man are disgraceful to ourselves only…How one man single-handedly, could weld warring tribes and wandering Bedouins into a most powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades….A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world; the world’s Maker had ordered so." - Thomas Carlyle
Well, Auto Action had last week as the cover story how V8 Supercars could be moving towards these motors. It was saying a current spec V8SC engine costs $150k to build as it uses all bespoke, specially cast blocks etc. Just like what has been mentioned in this thread.
Both the GMH and Ford and their associated motorsport managers believe that the current engines are expensive and irrelevant to their current products. Ford were suggesting that the Coyote being developed by Innovate Race Engines could indeed form the basis for the COTF Falcon. In the process saving some $130kThe problem is that the category managers aren't really helping clarify the rules, essentially asking the teams to put forward an engine proposal and then it will be 'paritied'.
Really, it seems that with Kelly Racing to be Nissan Motorsport next season and them running a race derived DOHC engine, they will be the guinea pigs. But, they could soon be at a real competitive advantage with it's newer architecture potentially being more fuel efficient, durable and more powerful.
The Coyote engine is kicking butt in the V8 Utes despite it being 5.0L versus 6.0L in the GMHolden. The Coyote has MUMBO!
Phillyc, "Paritied" is the key word here for engines, they will all be dyno'd and made to conform to identical HP/Torque and delivery specs.
The thing we need to keep remembering is they will not allow ANY mechanical advantage to exist.
Simply there will be no advantage for choosing 1 engine over another other than build costs. Honestly i cant see a race ready Coyote costing less than the current OHV engines given the significant extra number of parts and virtually zero R+D to date.
My Falcon family heritage: XY V8 Falcon 500, XYGT, XBGT, XC 351 GS, XD 4.1 Spack, EF wagon, AU Wagon, AU2 Wagon, AU2 XR8, BA XR8, BF XR8, FG XR6, Sprint 8. AU3 XLS Marlin Ute, FG2 Ute, 996.2 Carrera, MY24 Raptor.
Oh, really? So what as changed since the "parity" that (supposedly) existed between 2000-2002 seasons inclusive?
IMO "parity" is a commodity that can be bought by the rich teams.
Cynical? YOU BET I AM!
You can be cynical but in a time where pole to last is covered by 1 second parity is easily measured by a stopwatch.
My Falcon family heritage: XY V8 Falcon 500, XYGT, XBGT, XC 351 GS, XD 4.1 Spack, EF wagon, AU Wagon, AU2 Wagon, AU2 XR8, BA XR8, BF XR8, FG XR6, Sprint 8. AU3 XLS Marlin Ute, FG2 Ute, 996.2 Carrera, MY24 Raptor.
Who knows what the actual capacity is of this?
“…The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man are disgraceful to ourselves only…How one man single-handedly, could weld warring tribes and wandering Bedouins into a most powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades….A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world; the world’s Maker had ordered so." - Thomas Carlyle
Look at those headers glow!
I can think of a nice black car that either of those engines would fit in
ToCo (20th June 2013)
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