Happy invasion day.

[HSE2]

To me its a far easier conversation and makes far more sense.

Like a funneral day, starts off sad and reflective, but the wake afterwards ends up a celebration of their life and pissup! lol

This is what needs to happen. The tone of the day isn’t reflective of the feelings of our original inhabitants.

[4Vman]

This is what needs to happen. The tone of the day isn’t reflective of the feelings of our original inhabitants.

I’m actually now comfortable with how I feel about it.

Don’t change the date, start the day with reflection and respect.

Indigenous ceremonies.

Then celebrate the evolution of the country.

[Franco Cozzo]

I'm over people attempting to ram politically correct bullshit down my throat all the time and I've seriously got the shits up over a virtue signalling government and police force who picks and chooses who they want to enforce legislation on.

Australia Day Parade - No dice cause COVID.
Invasion Day Rally - sanctioned by Melbourne city council and state government, thousands of people turn out, police monitoring and do nothing.
Anti lockdown protest with 20 people - 500x police officers, police helicopter, public order response team, arrests and huge fines.

Its very obvious what our state government is doing and Victoria Police is more than happy to play along and be their little virtue signalling gestapo - if you toe the governments line then that's fine, if you have an opposing opinion to the government then Victoria Police is more than happy to start targeting you.

I'm not interested in "reconciliation' with our indigenous community - it's been very one sided with them not wanting anything other than handouts while they constantly stab us in the back.

They point the fingers at people with white skin and typecast us all as the ones responsible for their 'genocide' (debatable it was a 'genocide') and their treatment. I'm only the second generation born in Australia, my grandparents migrated to Australia in 1949/1953 from Italy and Malta after WWII, yet somehow they keep blaming me and my family for their plight at the hands of the British? We're not responsible for this bullshit and had no part in it, they can get fucked as far as we're all concerned.

I'm more than happy to go our separate ways - they're always insisting that they're not 'Australians', they call themselves 'first nations people' and they have their own (monetised) flag to represent their 'nation', why are we even attempting to help these people?

They contribute nothing to our society, they're a bunch of hangers-on holding the rest of us back that we're all carrying, that they're ungrateful for, we sink $30B/year into supporting these flogs, which would be better spent on some nice infrastructure we need around Melbourne and Sydney.

No welfare
No recognition
No 'treaty'
No services for their incestuous pedophile remote communities.
No 'welcome to country'
No bullshit indigenous history propaganda rammed down our kids throats like what happened to me at school

The senior 'Australian' of the year ended up being an 'aboriginal activist', if you ask Aboriginal activists around Australia they're firm that this is their land, they are first nations people and they are not Australians, this is from their own people and their own mouths, so why accept an award as an 'Australian' when their community is vehemently against being recognised as 'Australians'?

The first thing that comes out of Miriam-Rose Baumann's mouth is something along the lines of 'It's time for westerners to come to us, and meet us halfway', we've met you well and truly more than half way and this piece of shit wins an award for her efforts towards 'reconciliation'?

Though, I don't care if people want to protest and yell and shout over Invasion day bullshit, couldn't give two shits, I value freedom of speech, but the other side of the coin means that when our merry band of neo nazi's go for a lovely spot of hiking in the Grampians, burn crosses and shout racist chants that happened earlier this week, then stiff shit if you don't like it, you got to say your two cents so its only fair that they get to say theirs.

If you're allowed to have this:



Then you're allowed to have this too:

[andrewforbes]

I think one thing most of us struggle with is the fact everything happened soooo long ago that we feel it's not our problem we weren't there. I struggle with understanding this so called pain n trauma they feel for something they also weren't around for.
If I stub my toe on the corner of a bed post aren't I the only one that suffers the pain n trauma? The rest are just sympathizers and hangers on while guessing how I felt. Well no one here today was alive when first fleet arrived and therefore are guessing how their ancestors felt. Far worse atrocities took place after the 26th n again we only spoken/written words and reports to go by, which makes it hard to feel any connection to anything that took place. Some FNP I feel are more angry at the establishment because of more recent interactions they have had with authorities whether personal or a family member or friend. And the invasion day marches is a way to antagonize that establishment.
So what's the difference between invasion day n blm marches?
The lass who led the BLM marches here was also leading the invasion march and she is certainly the voice for both movements and the one the media goes straight to for comments.

[4Vman]

Then you're allowed to have this too:

Blonde and brunette caucacian woman holding a sign "you are on stolen land"

FML, spare me.

[HSE2]

I’m actually now comfortable with how I feel about it.

Don’t change the date, start the day with reflection and respect.

Indigenous ceremonies.

Then celebrate the evolution of the country.

I would need to see an alternative date that made sense. One of the biggest issues is correlating other atrocities that occurred all over the country and avoiding those. That’s not as easy as it sounds.

It’s a long time since I covered this subject in primary school, a school that was named in honour of its aboriginal position of land. That’s in 75.

Tasmania could possible have the worst record of treatment in the country on this issue. We a actually marched them off a cliff at table cape.

That’s a true act of genocide. The 26th isn’t as far as I can tell.

I get the symbolism part but that’s a point of influence. The true start of invasion day will be an event in time where first conflict occurs. A declaration of war if you like.

Intent to settle doesn’t appear to have treatment issues as a policy officially.. There is no written policy of intent to conduct genocide as is claimed on this day by activists.

But the technicalities around this don’t matter. It’s what the community in question feels and believes and this genuinely needs to be understood. Imo anyway

[Franco Cozzo]

Blonde and brunette caucacian woman holding a sign "you are on stolen land"

FML, spare me.

Performative activism - come January 26 they dust off the signs, gather in the city and fire up the social media profiles.

Then they're all back to being white people the other 364 days of the year, buying the coffee from their barista that Italians introduced to this country on their way to work.

[4Vman]

Performative activism - come January 26 they dust off the signs, gather in the city and fire up the social media profiles.

Then they're all back to being white people the other 364 days of the year, buying the coffee from their barista that Italians introduced to this country on their way to work.

Na, they'll then move onto the next contentious issue, rince and repeat.

Many of these people are professional activists.

The best ones are the ones who get interviewed and quizzed on their understanding of their "cause".

Most have NFI.

[4Vman]

I would need to see an alternative date that made sense. One of the biggest issues is correlating other atrocities that occurred all over the country and avoiding those. That’s not as easy as it sounds.

It’s a long time since I covered this subject in primary school, a school that was named in honour of its aboriginal position of land. That’s in 75.

Tasmania could possible have the worst record of treatment in the country on this issue. We a actually marched them off a cliff at table cape.

That’s a true act of genocide. The 26th isn’t as far as I can tell.

I get the symbolism part but that’s a point of influence. The true start of invasion day will be an event in time where first conflict occurs. A declaration of war if you like.

Intent to settle doesn’t appear to have treatment issues as a policy officially.. There is no written policy of intent to conduct genocide as is claimed on this day by activists.

But the technicalities around this don’t matter. It’s what the community in question feels and believes and this genuinely needs to be understood. Imo anyway

You leave the date as is.

Simply change the narrative about how its commemorated.

If this day is so emotive to our indigenous brothers and sisters then lets work with that and make it a day of remembrance too.

Look at ANZAC Day, you could mount a far stronger case the 25th of April is a far more emotional day to far more Australians.

But we embrace the date, as devastating as it was, pay our respects, then at noon, celebrate the lives of those lost.

[andrewforbes]

Finding a new date will be a hard tasks as new atrocities continue to arise through historians investigations.